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Gary P. Dabrowski
The Brookside Rod Co.
37 Brook Street
Naugatuck, CT, 06770-3101
(203) 729-1503

email:
gdabrowski@yahoo.com


Contents copyright 2001, 2002, 2003
by G. P. Dabrowski

This page last revised 05/13/2003




Links to drawings
in pdf format
and finishing guide

Cups drawing
Reel seat insert drawing
Butt cap finishing drawing
Slide ring finishing drawing
Cork check finishing drawing
Butt cap turning mandrill drawing
Cups finishing guide (HTML)
Pocketed buttcap drawing
Rimmed buttcap drawing

Pocketed buttcap blanks
finishing guide




Links to copies
of this page and price
list in PDF format
for your records

Rodmakers findings TM page
Components volume pricelist


Links to construction
articles courtesy of
Powerfibers
Online Magazine
(pdf format)

Making reel seat inserts
Making drawn metal components


Links to other articles

Catskill gathering 2003
drawn parts making discussion



The punch press used to produce some of our rod components

Our Rousselle punch press



Rodmakers Findings TM

are semi-finished rod builders hardware; reel seat components

Latest News:

(9/8/03)Catskill 2003 gathering discussion on drawn part making link added.

(4/10/03)Rodmakers Findings are trademarked!

(3/31/03)Domed buttcap blanks are now available. This semi-finished part has a graceful spherical base. See below for further information.

(3/13/03)Rimmed cups are now available. Used as a starting point for several interesting reel seat parts including a rimed buttcap. The design originates from the Classic Era of bamboo fly rods when stylish reel seat jewelry was common. See below for further information.


Rodmakers Findings TM are economical un-finished blanks that may be finished by those with metals machining skills and equipment into their own unique reel seat hardware. Semi-finished pocketed buttcap and rimmed buttcap blanks are available to those who prefer them for their rod project.

The basis of these parts is a simple deep drawn cup. Depending on the size and type selected and using an engine lathe, this simple cup may be converted into a variety of parts including:

  • grip checks.
  • cork checks.
  • butt caps for cap and ring reel seats.
  • rimmed buttcaps and slide bands for rimmed cap and ring reel seats.
  • slide bands for mortised cap and ring reel seats.
  • slide bands for pocketed buttcap reel seats.
  • slide bands for screw lock reel seats.
  • pocketed or hooded buttcaps.
  • hoods for uplocking reel seats.
  • nickel silver base trim for inserts used on uplocking seats.

A sketch in PFD format describing some of the fly rod reel seat options that may be constructed with these cups may be found here.
A group of drawn nickle silver cups

(right) Drawn nickle silver cups.

Unlike an assembled or soldered butt cap, where a disk is soldered into the end of a portion of a tube; butt caps made from seamless drawn cups require less time to make and will never come apart. The process employed to form these cups is the same method used by the makers of the classic era rods. They are stamped, drawn and formed from flat strip material. The process permits a generous and stylish radius at the end of the cap not typical of soldered butt caps. Using these cups to make your own components personalizes your work, making it uniquely yours. Separating your work from that of those who simply assemble widely available commercial components onto the rods they build.

Other semi-finished parts made from these cups are available including pocketed butt cap blanks, rimmed cup blanks and domed buttcap blanks.

Nickle silver strip and round blanks(left) Cups are formed from round blanks which are punched out of coils of nickle silver strip.

Cups are drawn from one of the following materials. Nickle silver blanks are made from UNS C75200 18% alloy. This is exactly the same material long used by rodmakers. It polishes to a brilliant white-blue color and will not tarnish or discolor as does the commonly available nickle silver barstock alloys. Parts may also be ordered made from jewelers bronze or "NU-GOLD" alloy. Long used in the jewelry industry, this metal permits the fabrication of parts having good mechanical strength and corrosion resistance along with the look of Gold. Most nickle silver parts are generally held in stock. Parts made from aluminum and jewelers bronze are usually run to order.

Cups (blanks) are selected by size for different fly rod reel seat applications:

Drawn cup selection table
Reel seats having 21/32 in. diameter inserts


See the cups drawing here


Cap and ring reel seat parts finished from our blanks


cap and ring reel seat assembled from the above parts
Cap and ring (slideband) with mortised insert
Grip check
use 21/32 cup
Slide Band
use 21/32 cup
Buttcap
use 21/32 cup
Slideband with pocketed buttcap & full round insert
Grip check
use 21/32 cup
Slide Band
use 23/32 cup
Buttcap
use 21/32 pocketed
buttcap blank
Reel seats having 11/16 in. diameter inserts
Cap and ring (slideband) with mortised insert
Grip check
use 11/16 cup
Slide Band
use 11/16 cup
Buttcap
use 11/16 cup
Slideband with pocketed buttcap & full round insert
Grip check
use 11/16 cup
Slide Band
use 3/4 cup
Buttcap
use 11/16 pocketed
buttcap blank

Drawn metal cups
Blank parts. Requires finish machining.


A group of drawn nickle silver cups.

Drawn metal cups are available made from 18% nickle silver, aluminum and jewelers bronze. Nickle silver parts are generally held in stock. Parts made from aluminum and jewelers bronze are usually run to order. A drawing describing these parts is available in the links column to the left.

Drawn metal cup material
18% Nickel silver Aluminum NU-Gold
cup inside
diameter
price each
1-11
pieces
price each
1-11
pieces
price each
1-11
pieces
5/8 in. $5.45 $4.30 $6.50
21/32 in.
11/16 in.
23/32 in.
3/4 in.
Volume pricing is available for quantities over 12 pieces. See the current volume price list here.

Pocketed Butt Caps; as-drawn.
Blank parts. Requires finish machining of height.

As-drawn pocketed buttcap blanks.

As-drawn pocketed butt cap blanks are available made from 18% nickle silver, aluminum and jewelers bronze. Nickle silver parts are generally held in stock. Parts made from aluminum and jewelers bronze are usually run to order.

Drawn metal cup material
18% Nickel silver Aluminum NU-Gold
butt cap inside
diameter
price each
1-11
pieces
price each
1-11
pieces
price each
1-11
pieces
21/32 in. $11.50 $9.50 $14.00
11/16 in.
Volume pricing is available for quantities over 12 pieces. See the current volume price list here.

Pocketed Butt Caps; machined.
Blank parts. Requires polishing and buffing before use.

Machined pocketed buttcap blanks.

Machined pocketed butt cap blanks are available made from 18% nickle silver, aluminum and jewelers bronze. Nickle silver parts are generally held in stock. Parts made from aluminum and jewelers bronze are usually run to order.

Drawn metal cup material
18% Nickel silver Aluminum NU-Gold
butt cap inside
diameter
price each
1-11
pieces
price each
1-11
pieces
price each
1-11
pieces
21/32 in. $13.50 $11.50 $16.00
11/16 in.
Volume pricing is available for quantities over 12 pieces. See the current volume price list here.

New! Rimmed cup blanks

The styling of the rimmed cup comes from the Classic Era of bamboo fly rods when stylish reel seat jewelry was common. Rimmed cups are semi-finished parts. Machined to height and flanged or rimmed by radially expanding and then compressing the base of the formed cup, These parts are supplied as-formed and annealed and require the builder to polish and buff all over and if desired, to trim the cup mouth with either an inscribed line or a knurled decoration. A part drawing in pdf format is available for further description.

Some enterprising rod makers have bored out the bottom of the cup and narrowed the width of the remaining ring in order to fabricate a ring or slide band mirroring the shape of the rimmed butt cap. This ring may also be tensioned against a reel foot by a threaded band as on a screw lock reel seat. One may also shorten the height of the cup and employ the result on the butt end of up-locking slide band reel seats to retain the ring.

Rimmed Cup Blanks
Requires machining of knurl or inscribed line, polishing and buffing before use.

Rimmed butt cap blanks.

Rimmed butt cap blanks are available made from 18% nickle silver or jewelers bronze. Nickle silver parts are generally held in stock. Parts made from jewelers bronze are usually run to order.

Drawn metal cup material
18% Nickel silver NU-Gold
cup inside
diameter
price each
1-11
pieces
price each
1-11
pieces
21/32 in. $12.95 $15.95
11/16 in.
Volume pricing is available for quantities over 12 pieces. See the current volume price list here.

New! Domed butt cap blanks

The Domed buttcap blank styling also originates in examples found in the Classic Era of bamboo fly rods. Made in a manner similar to the rimmed cups above, they are supplied as-formed and annealed and require the builder to polish and buff all over and if desired, to trim the cup mouth with either an inscribed line or a knurled decoration. A part drawing in pdf format is available for further description.

Domed Butt Cap Blanks
Requires machining of knurl or inscribed line, polishing and buffing before use.

The domed buttcap blank.


The domed buttcap blank.

Domed butt cap blanks are available made from 18% nickle silver or jewelers bronze. Nickle silver parts are generally held in stock. Parts made from jewelers bronze are usually run to order.

Drawn metal cup material
18% Nickel silver NU-Gold
butt cap inside
diameter
price each
1-11
pieces
price each
1-11
pieces
21/32 in. $12.95 $15.95
11/16 in.
Volume pricing is available for quantities over 12 pieces. See the current volume price list here.

Shipping: Please add $4.00 to each order for Priority Mail shipping for up to fifty cups or parts to most destinations in the continental U.S. Orders for more than fifty pieces and to offshore destinations will require my shipping quotation before your total cost is known.

Ordering: Orders may be placed via U. S. mail, email or directly thru PayPal. Payment may be made by U. S. Mail with money orders or personal checks (which are held to clear before product is shipped) or with your credit card or personal check through PayPal. Paypal may be accessed by clicking the logo below.

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Rod Craftsmen & Dealers: Unfinished cups and pocketed butt caps are available in bulk at a volume price structure. Active rod craftsman will find it economical to purchase quantities as few as twelve pieces.

The current volume price list.

Dealers of rod building components will find attactive pricing for both bulk and retail packaged product. Made to order or contract manufacturing of special related product is available upon quotation. A modest tooling cost is necessary for such projects.

Sales terms and conditions; Return policy. It is implicit with your order that you understand the nature of these parts, the materials they are made from and the methods required to finish them. It is also implicit with your order that you have read, understand and subscribe to the danger statement below. You are responsible to know what you are buying before you buy. Rodmakers findings that are deemed in my opinion not to be in compliance with stated standards will be replaced upon return. Such a return may occur only with prior authorization by myself. All returns are subject to a $10.00 processing fee in addition to any bank, paypal or other financial fees including packaging and shipping fees and any other fees and will be paid by the customer. No claim or returns will be accepted after 30 days from invoice date. All returns not for exchange are for credit, there are no cash refunds.


A link to a finishing guide is located above and to the left. It describes some typical methods of finishing grip checks, butt caps and slide bands from the drawn nickle silver cups available here. While skilled rodmaker-machinists may be able to use nearly any size of engine lathe to finish these rodmakers findings TM, customer feedback suggest that beginning machinists or those with little experience and having mini or micro lathes for equipment may not be able to successfully machine these parts.

Always use safety glasses when operating any kind of power equipment.


Danger: The successful conversion of purchased nickle silver cups into visually and technically acceptable rod / reel seat components requires personal technical skill in machine operation, knowledge of strength of material issues, general manufacturing technology and shop safety. The supplier makes no guarantee that any individual can successfully do so and is specifically not responsible for any injury or damage that may come about as a result of machining or finishing or attempting to machine or finish purchased cups. Machining metal is inherently dangerous.